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1989 Newsletter Archive



ORAL HISTORY AS PART OF A CORPORATE ARCHIVES PROGRAM: INTERVIEW QUESTIONS

by Claudette John, CIGNA Corporation

In the June issue of the Newsletter, -I promised that I would close the "Dialogue" on corporate oral history by featuring examples of successful interview questions. Obviously, many good questions are so specific to one interview or series of interviews that it would not be helpful to quote them here. Others may not qualify as proper questions at all, emerging as they do directly from conversation. And, of course, some of the best questions are the brief follow-ups: "When?" "Who did that?" "Why?" "Where?"

Three archivists responded to my request for their "best" questions: Elizabeth Adkins of Kraft, James Fogerty of the Minnesota Historical Society and Harry Keiner of CIGNA, Hartford. Some of their questions are included below; the rest are selected from my old standbys.

"Will you tell me a little about yourself ÷ where you were born and raised, where you went to school, and how you got started at Kraft?" "Why did you choose to work for Kraft?" (Adkins) All four of us usually begin with similar questions.

"What are your views on the current relationship between government and industry?" "In what areas can government help industry?" "What can industry do to reduce friction with government?" (Fogerty) Harry Keiner tries, when appropriate, to have the people he interviews put the information they give him into an industry-wide context.

Elizabeth Adkins asks salesmen: "Do you remember your first sales call?" "What was it like?" "Will you describe to me a typical work day?" I use variants of these questions for interviewees who have spent some time in sales. Both Elizabeth and I use the latter question for anyone whose daily routine may be of interest to researchers. And I must admit that I have used it when I was too ignorant of certain aspects of someoneÂs career to ask anything more specific.

Harry Keiner, recalling past interviews for a history of Pratt and Whitney Aircraft, noted that project work for engineers is a team effort, so it was always important to ask who else was involved. He learned a great deal about how consultants were used by the company (something he had not been aware of) by asking that question.

I almost always ask, "What two or three people within the company were most instrumental in helping you in your career?" A variant for officers is "What two or three people were most instrumental in helping you build the kind of program (or company) you wanted to build?" Sometimes I ask: "Who was the most gifted or talented person you worked with?" "The most difficult?" "The most ruthless?" Or I may mention some of the intervieweeÂs most influential contemporaries and ask him or her to talk about those people.

I have found that my "best of times, worst of times" duo elicits interesting and revealing responses: "What was your best year (or business experience) with the company?" "What was the worst?" Elizabeth Adkins asks, "Looking back on your years at Kraft, of what accomplishments are you the most proud?"

Jim Fogerty and I both interview top executives. He interviews as an outsider and talks to executives from many different companies. Among his favorites are "What are your views on foreign competition for American industry?" or variations on that theme: "Is foreign competition a problem for your firm?" "What can American industry -- especially your part of it -- do to compete with foreign firms more effectively?" Finally, he inquires about the intervieweeÂs views on corporate philanthropy and uses appropriate follow-up questions to probe the reasons for approval or disapproval.

The executives I interview are from CIGNA and its two predecessor companies. I may pinpoint problem areas, for example, a major loss in one division, and ask how the problem was analyzed and resolved. I ask several people who are bound to have different perspectives, including the officer who solved the problem. When I interview a former chairman, president, or CEO, I always ask, "How were you chosen as president?" and "How did you choose your successor?" I ask about relationships with boards of directors or, in the case of a chairman, his relationship with management. I ask about corporate governance: "In the period when you were restructuring the Board, you must have had some discouraging moments as well as times when you wanted to shout, ¯Hurrah! IÂve done it. Will you give me an example of each?"

All of us ask questions about products and marketing and management philosophy and about changes over the years. My final question, the one I use in some form at the end of every interview, is "If you were the historian interviewing (intervieweeÂs name), what would you have asked that I did not?" Then I ask them to answer their own question.

Although I have promised to leave the topic of oral history, as always, I shall be happy to include your comments or, in this case, your favorite interview questions in the next issue. Write to me, Claudette John, CIGNA Corporation Archives, 1600 Arch Street, Philadelphia, PA 19103, or to the editor of this newsletter. Have a happy and healthy holiday season.

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ORAL HISTORY AS PART OF A CORPORATE ARCHIVES PROGRAM: INTERVIEWING

by Claudette John, CIGNA Corporation

In this, the fourth column on corporate oral history, I want to discuss interviewing techniques, to suggest how communication may be established between the interviewer and the interviewee. Most of what I have to say is my opinion and is based on my own experience. It is drawn as much from what I consider to be my failures as it is from my successes.

Much has been written about interviewing styles, and I suspect far more has been said. Advice ranges all the way from "Confront the interviewee; follow up aggressively; be nasty, if necessary," to "Be an exceptionally good listener/recorder; donÂt interfere; donÂt attempt to guide the session." Needless to say, in a corporate setting, consistently going for the jugular could cost you your program. More important, is the fact that creating an atmosphere of antagonism will interfere with the easy flow of information and insight that is the essence of good oral history. On the other hand, while the opposite extreme might be useful in some circumstances, most business people are far more comfortable if the historian structures and guides the session. And the results usually will be more suitable for business uses as well as for research by scholars of business.

Should the interviewer be aggressive, or adopt a persona, or make outrageous statements to illicit particularly revealing responses? You will, of course, develop a style that is effective for you, appropriate for the program, and ethical. The only concrete answer I can give to that question is based on my own experience. Be honest with yourself and be honest with the interviewee. Your goal as an oral historian is not so much to get answers as to enable the interviewee to communicate fully with his or her future audience. You do that by allowing him to communicate with you in depth and on several levels. Establish a rapport with your subject. Look at him. Even though you must watch the tape, monitor sound levels and, perhaps, check your notes from time to time, keep eye contact as much as possible.

There is, without doubt, much more to establishing rapport than eye contact. You must be genuinely interested in what the interviewee has to say. The depth of that interest is revealed as much by the quality of your preparatory research as by your manner during the interview. There is no substitute for sincerity. Understanding on a personal as well as an intellectual level is crucial. In fact, there are times when nothing less than empathy will suffice; maybe we should measure an oral historianÂs EQ--empathy quotient. My guess is that journalists, as a group, can use a far greater variety of interviewing techniques successfully than oral historians.

Does this mean that I have chosen not to ask the "tough" questions? No. I save them until later in the interview, or series, when the interviewee has become more comfortable with me and with the process. If I ask a tough question and donÂt get an answer, I may follow up by restating it. If that doesnÂt work or the answer seems not to be complete, I may broach the subject again from a different direction-÷and again, and again. Often I get additional information each time. I may drop the question until the next interview to let the interviewee think about it or come to terms with it. Some interviewees will come back to the question themselves, without prompting. Most of these "delayed" answers appear to be honest and fairly straightforward. If a response seems to be overly rationalized, just keep the interviewee talking around the subject; the truth--from his perspective--is likely to emerge. Certainly there are ways to check the accuracy of a statement: archival records, other interviews, internal consistency, etc.

Sometimes humor will bring forth an answer:

Me: Why were you made senior vice president of the Group operations:
He: I had training in ...; I had experience in ..., and I
suggested ... as a new product.
Me: Were there any other reasons?
He: No.
Me: Mr.

He laughed and admitted that, to some extent, that was true and proceeded to tell me the whole story.

This column is obviously a very subjective one. I hope it will inspire (or incite) some of you to share the benefits of your interviewing experience through "Dialogue." In the next issue of the Business Archives Newsletter, I would like to feature your comments on "Interviewing" and to discuss interview questions. I plan to use a couple of my own more successful questions and some from other oral historians who are doing business-related interviews. I especially want to include questions used by readers of this newsletter. Please send your favorite questions to me or to the editor. Remember, IÂll identify you in the column unless you ask me not to. Write to Claudette John, CIGNA Corporation Archives, 1600 Arch St., Philadelphia, PA 19103 or to the editor of this newsletter before Thanksgiving. I hope to see you all at the Annual Meeting in St. Louis this fall.

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